[He reads her response carefully, a couple of times. She sure did take a sharp left turn at the end there, didn't she?]
Chara, I'm not sure what you want from me here. I am more than willing to hear both Wakers and other Sleepers out. But from for myself, I am wary of both black and white thinking, and rushing into making decisions out of anger and fear, without considering the risks and cost. I've made those mistakes before.
[The fucked up thing is that they're just rude. They don't have as much of a horse in this race as they're pretending they do. They believe the Pthumerians are enemies that need to be killed, but they don't personally care a bit about this world or any of the native humans of this ruined planet.]
I have no desired outcome from you, I'm simply stating my own thoughts on the concept and your reaction to it.
Anger and fear are what spawns revolutions, every single one of them. I am of the opinion that the people, Sleepers and Wakers alike, are entitled to their hatred of those that would crush them like bugs.
No. The Emperor and his regime are too terrible to be allowed to continue. It rules through fear, and deliberately attempts to destroy entire planets, cultures, and species. Then usually tries to brainwash and/or enslave any survivors.
I regret some of the methods I used. Does anyone 'deserve' mind control into committing friendly fire and then suicide?
Yes. I hardly see how that's any different than any other method of murdering them. Violating, yes, but it is also violating to be impaled or dismembered or suffocated or beaten to death. Even in self defense. [They... would know.]
Wouldn't overthrowing the Emperor cause a power vacuum? Who takes over in his absence? How many millions of lives would suffer in the power struggle that followed, or in the rebellion that preceded it that might have been spared from the Emperor's whims if others didn't make the decision for them? I don't know the situation. [Well, not strictly true. Canonically, they have seen Star Wars at least but they're not cruel enough to spring that on poor Ezra mid conversation.] But I think almost any major choice with consequences these large has arguments for either action and inaction, and the same is true for the choices Sleepers are faced with regarding the Wakers and the Pthumerians.
In addition, I would like to point out that the Pthumerian Queen has done the exact same things that you described to the human race in this world.
I prefer to either end a conflict without death, or to kill as quickly as possible. Not to violate or torment.
Back home, I am only one person who is part of a much larger group, some of whom are aware of the power vacuum problems. There are plans to restore a republic, which is the form of government that existed up until the day I was born. I'm not in charge of those parts of the Rebellion.
I guess I need to add looking up info on the Pthumerian Queen to my to do list.
I am not a sadist either, but I will say, all deaths are violating and all deaths are painful. In the end, you have to be exceptionally cruel to have it make much of a difference. I would say that using mind control on someone and then letting them live afterward is a harsher cruelty than finishing them quickly.
Speak to Vira-Lorr. She has records of all she knows about the dream, including her own memories of the Pthumerian Queen's plan. The Queen was the one that subjected Julia Sodder to the life of a demon by right of birth.
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Chara, I'm not sure what you want from me here. I am more than willing to hear both Wakers and other Sleepers out. But from for myself, I am wary of both black and white thinking, and rushing into making decisions out of anger and fear, without considering the risks and cost. I've made those mistakes before.
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I have no desired outcome from you, I'm simply stating my own thoughts on the concept and your reaction to it.
Anger and fear are what spawns revolutions, every single one of them. I am of the opinion that the people, Sleepers and Wakers alike, are entitled to their hatred of those that would crush them like bugs.
Do you regret the revolution you took part in?
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I regret some of the methods I used. Does anyone 'deserve' mind control into committing friendly fire and then suicide?
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Wouldn't overthrowing the Emperor cause a power vacuum? Who takes over in his absence? How many millions of lives would suffer in the power struggle that followed, or in the rebellion that preceded it that might have been spared from the Emperor's whims if others didn't make the decision for them? I don't know the situation. [Well, not strictly true. Canonically, they have seen Star Wars at least but they're not cruel enough to spring that on poor Ezra mid conversation.] But I think almost any major choice with consequences these large has arguments for either action and inaction, and the same is true for the choices Sleepers are faced with regarding the Wakers and the Pthumerians.
In addition, I would like to point out that the Pthumerian Queen has done the exact same things that you described to the human race in this world.
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Back home, I am only one person who is part of a much larger group, some of whom are aware of the power vacuum problems. There are plans to restore a republic, which is the form of government that existed up until the day I was born. I'm not in charge of those parts of the Rebellion.
I guess I need to add looking up info on the Pthumerian Queen to my to do list.
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Speak to Vira-Lorr. She has records of all she knows about the dream, including her own memories of the Pthumerian Queen's plan. The Queen was the one that subjected Julia Sodder to the life of a demon by right of birth.
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I do know Vira-Lorr. I'll speak to her when I have the time and energy to give the matter some real attention.
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Tell her I said greetings.