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Paul Atreides ([personal profile] terriblepurpose) wrote2023-06-19 02:40 pm

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[personal profile] megatheorem 2022-06-20 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. Hi?

Necromancy is a series of skills that use and employ thanergy (and less often, thalergy), which is the energy associated with death. Sixth psychometry reads thanergy/thalergy traces in order to get those associations and visions, specifically.

The end result is the same, ultimately. But the technique is different, rooted in the necromancy I know.
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2022-06-20 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
--Sorry, was jumping in like that rude?

Thanergy = death energy, got it. I think. Thalergy is?

So is psychometry something you your consciously control and/or do a ritual to activate, or does it just happen sometimes? For him, practice and training helped make it more controllable, but it was definitely a just happens sometimes thing. He usually wore gloves to cut down on getting flashes.



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[personal profile] megatheorem 2022-06-20 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
No, you're fine.

Thalergy is life energy.

And it's both, although I don't wear gloves. A stronger energy retention on an object or a person will make the involuntary flashes more likely, but it isn't something that happens to me every time I touch something. Most of the time, I have to do it on purpose.
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2022-06-20 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool, that tracks with what he described.

I wonder how exactly thalergy and what Jedi call the Living Force match up.
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[personal profile] megatheorem 2022-06-20 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know; tell me about the Living Force.
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2022-06-21 12:03 am (UTC)(link)

The orthodox view, I guess, is that the Force IS everything. The Living Force is the aspect of the Force that resides in and is generated by all life. It is energy that binds us, and connects us. When living things die, they usually pass into what is called the Cosmic Force, which is often considered to transcend linear space/time. The Cosmic Force supports and sustains the Living Force; the Jedi view is that it is a cycle.

But stuff about the Cosmic Force is also usually considered more theoretical, as Jedi on the whole are usually more attuned to the Living Force.

On the other hand, I've personally had visions of people I'm close to, who had died recently. I've been told by several sources, including ones I trust a fair amount, that spirits or souls can exist as distinguishable entities a very long time after death. I've even seen some evidence that the spirits of the dead can at times possess a living person.
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[personal profile] megatheorem 2022-06-29 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
There are similarities there, sure. Thanergy and thalergy have always been understood as resources to us, more than the idea of a pervasive, omnipresent something that exists in all things regardless of what's happening to it.

I mean, obviously thanergy and thalergy exist in all things. But it's the way cell death and new cell generation exist in all things, you know? Limited, ultimately. A finite resource.

Soul is another matter entirely. I believe you completely about possessions. Where do these distinguishable souls of yours manifest, if not inside something else?
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[personal profile] ezra_of_lothal 2022-07-10 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. There are places that the Force, or aspects of it are stronger and weaker, sure. Or a particular person may be more in tune. I pretty much always felt more in tune on my homeworld, for example. And how the Force feels for me here has taken some getting used to. But the limits of what we can do with it is usually understood to be a matter of understanding, will, training. Not a limit within the Force itself.

I'm not sure about the specifics of manifestation of souls. Tawlyn - he's a Sith here - he talked about binding spirits to himself. My Jedi friend who talked about the dead visiting him, it just seemed like they turned up whenever they wanted to.